Mikroruckeln auf einer Voodoo

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Immer wieder kommt die Frage auf, ob die Schöpfungen des Altmeisters 3dfx auch mikroruckeln. Immer wieder lautet die Antwort "nein", und das ist logisch. Jede Voodoo-Paarung, sei es Voodoo2 oder VSA-100 aka Voodoo5, nutzt ScanLineInterleaving. Die Lastverteilung erfolgt zeilenweise, jede GPU in Reihe berechnet in Wechselwirkung mit den anderen Prozessoren einzelne Zeilen desselben Frames. Dadurch, dass alle GPUs an ein und demselben Bild arbeiten, ist es unmöglich, dass zwei Frames gleichzeitig fertig werden.

Da das noch niemand machte, habe ich am Wochenende meine Voodoo5 6000 mit Fraps malträtiert. Originales Quad-SLI in steinzeitlicher Perfektion liefert folgende Frametimes:

Code:
Max Payne 2
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 (4 x VSA-100 @ 167 MHz, 4 x 32 MiB SDR-SDRAM)
1.600x1.200x32, höchstmögliche Details
Windows XP, SFFT Alpha 58

~53 Fps Average, 18 Fps Minimum

Frame, Time (ms)
    1,     0.000
    2,     9.513
    3,    22.923 (+13,41 ms)
    4,    38.027 (+15,14 ms)
    5,    53.371 (+15,34 ms)
    6,    68.175 (+14,80 ms)
    7,    83.432 (+15,26 ms)
    8,    99.111 (+15,68 ms)
    9,   113.710 (+14,60 ms)
   10,   128.827 (+15,10 ms)
   11,   144.947
   12,   158.476
   13,   173.507
   14,   190.348
   15,   203.690
   16,   218.733
   17,   234.060
   18,   248.743
   19,   263.743
   20,   280.403
   21,   293.858
   22,   308.890
   23,   325.441
   24,   338.872
   25,   353.896
   26,   369.326
   27,   385.998
   28,   399.133
   29,   416.333
   30,   429.170
   31,   444.184
   32,   461.650
   33,   474.199
   34,   489.371
   35,   506.942
   36,   519.419
   37,   534.602
   38,   550.029
   39,   564.712
   40,   579.777
   41,   596.512
   42,   610.015
   43,   624.892
   44,   642.010
   45,   655.078
   46,   670.203 (+15,125 ms)
   47,   685.745 (+15,542 ms)
   48,   700.537 (+14,792 ms)
   49,   715.633
   50,   732.365
   51,   745.637
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Das passiert, wenn SLI partiell schläft – mit 2x RGSSAA. Nämlich eine exakte Halbierung der Leistung:

Code:
Max Payne 2
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 (4 x VSA-100 @ 167 MHz, 4 x 32 MiB SDR-SDRAM)
1.600x1.200x32, höchstmögliche Details, 2x RGSSAA
Windows XP, SFFT Alpha 58

~27 Fps Average, 13 Fps Minimum

Frame, Time (ms)
    1,     0.000
    2,    24.816
    3,    57.085
    4,    90.544
    5,   121.565
    6,   153.296
    7,   185.585
    8,   217.276
    9,   251.498
   10,   282.903
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Delikat an diesen Zahlen ist die Entwicklung des XP-Treibers. Wer das V5-6000-Review gelesen hat, weiß vom berüchtigten "SLI Fuckup", das solch vernichtende Werte zur Folge hat(te):

http://www.3dcenter.org/images/voodoo5-6000/MaxPayne2-Prologue_1600x1200x32bpp.png

Jetzt ermöglicht ein Alpha-Treiber durchschnittlich ~53 Fps (~27 Fps mit 2x RGSSAA) und die V5 6000 (167 statt 183 MHz wie im Test) schlägt abermals die GeForce2 Ultra. Aber das nur am Rande.

MfG,
Raff
 
Öhm, Raff.
Da kann doch garnich micro-ruckeln!

Überleg doch mal, wie die Voodoos funzen und jetzt überleg mal wie die aktuellen Karten funzen (außerhalb der Super AA Modis).

Und jetzt überleg mal, warum die Microruckler entstehen :rolleyes:
 
Och Stefan, hast du den Beitrag auch gelesen? ;) Das soll doch nur eine Erklärung plus Minibeweis sein.

MfG,
Raff
 
Ja, hab ich aber du bist hier im falschen Forum, das hier ist das Grafikchipforum in dems um aktuelle Hardware geht, dieser Beitrag gehört eher ins Nostalgie/Retro Forum, das du hier findest, dann aber am besten mit ein paar (selbst gemachten) Fotos deiner V5-6k ;)

Und da die VSA-100er so alt sind, das sie nichtmal AFR können, könnens auch nicht microruckeln...
 
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